Why Is the Sierra Club Using a Xenophobe to Fight Natural Gas?
** Unfortunately this post contains a video with language that is not suitable for all audiences. Please use discretion in watching the video
If you thought the Sierra Club’s endorsement of anti natural gas activist, Vera Scroggins, in a recent letter, was bad because of an interaction displayed on her YouTube channel, just wait until you see what was left on the cutting room floor.
We came across yet another Vera Scroggins video this week that literally made my jaw hit my desk. I couldn’t understand in the original video, which can be viewed here, how anyone could be proud to have behaved in such a manner. Well, after watching this latest video I can say I still wouldn’t be proud of the behavior displayed in the original, but it doesn’t hold a candle to the appalling performance in the latest. Oh yeah, it’s that bad.
It appears we may have another SautnerGate scenario where Vera also published only a portion of a video only to have the whole thing surface later. Just to give a quick recap, the following video is of a confrontation between activist Vera Scroggins and Phelim McAleer, one of the producers of FrackNation. It took place while McAleer was attempting to ask questions of the celebrities who came to tour Susquehanna County, namely Susan Sarandon in this instance.
Now before you watch, please make sure you are not in a public place, there are no young children in the room, and there is no one around you whom you wouldn’t want to hear F-bombs being blared from your computer or phone. The video definitely comes with a “WARNING EXPLICIT LANGUAGE,” caution, as Vera demonstrates “5 Rules of Engagement for the Desperate.”
This is one of the activists the Atlantic Chapter of the Sierra Club is touting as a savior to the people of Pennsylvania and New York? Let’s just say they may want to choose their icons more carefully in the future. And Vera may want to start taking her own advice:
Vic, that’s the best you can do is call me names — that’s the final ploy of the desperate.
2013/01/20 at 7:23 PMIs that the best you can say, Loren, is insult people who you don’t agree with; a rude, low-blow shot?
2012/12/30 at 8:47 AMMay we respect one another as much as possible as we pursue our particular beliefs and understanding?
2012/11/26 at 9:31 AM
We all have our particular viewpoints and beliefs; nothing can really change another’s view. We can listen respectively to one another and then follow our “Truth” and stand for what we believe. There’s always at least two sides to any issue. this is Life.
2012/08/22 at 6:57 AM
So, this still leaves us with a fundamental question; what was the Sierra Club thinking in relying upon this foul mouthed xenophobe to guide their entertainer supporters around Dimock? If they and Yoko Ono have to resort to visiting junkyards and using people of this sort to make their case, things are looking pretty darned good for natural gas in New York. No wonder the antis’ are starting to go berserk in a desperate attempt to keep it out.
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Unfortunately in the field I have witnessed this behavior quite often from Vera and many others taken her side. not to mention the vandalism they or their kind have done to my property over the years. Some may ask how do I know it was anti gas activist that have visited me at night I can honestly say I don’t know for sure…BUT’ all the vandalism was done to my pro gas signs and structures holding them. This is very typical of Vera but I sure wish I had someone taping the conversation between Craig Stevens, (Bible in hand) and Craig Saunter at Binghamtons West Middle School two years ago. The language out of their mouths made Vera sound like the Pope on Christmas Eve. It was also one of the first times I had interactions with Julie, She stuck up for the two Craig’s saying to me that she knew both men very well and neither of them would ever swear.
PS: is she saying Ignorant or Imigrant?
I thought she said imbecile.
To Mr Furmam, is it possible that your friends of natural gas signs could have been torn down by something else? Good grief the antis always get the blame! Have you checked for little tracks? Possibility with claw marks? By any chance did you check the alignment of that groundhog hole with the moon /sun? Well did ya? Just maybe you blocked the moon and or sun light from that little whitish haired freak and she couldn’t see her shadow? On the other hand we all Thank you for the proper placement of your signs! Apparently she couldn’t rip them down in time and alas could not see her shadow!! Thank God as we all know what this means (ITS GOING TO BE A EARLY FRACKING SPRING!)
Vera, where are you? What do you have to say for yourself? Clearly this was despicable, how about an apology? Or do you really think you are smarter/ better than people such as Phelim?
Get over it ! Dave .I’m sure you all have said things just like that in your life .You people are a joke !Vera does a good job of bringing out what this drilling is doing to the area .You all that hate her just disagree because you probably have a money interest .Money isn’t everything .Oh perhaps it is for all you pro gassers .
I never chased someone around for 5 minutes yelling the foulest insults at them the whole time, nor do I expect any of our readers have either. You are full of it, Bill.
But what about your man Phelim …ok for hin to get into someone’s face …come on get over it ! You guys can make a story about anything .That what count’s to you !!and you know it (the public does too )
The cheque’s in the mail.
Bill….
Perhaps your using your own product?
Mr. Ferullo,
How dare you to judge my character? I like to think my neighbors, cooleagues and customers respect me as aresult of the way I conduct myself. Google my name and I challenge to find any negative comments about me. And I am married Into a very Irish family and take offense to Vera’s prejudice. And yes , I have a money interest and I feel no reason to be ashamed of my investments. We are after all a capitalistic society and I am proud of that as well. I live the American dream and that’s no joke!
Dave
Mr. Beers comments toward Mr. Furman this is the typical argument you receive from the anti gas supporter.I experience the same types of things with debates in our local papers They can’t honestly debate they have to make rude remarks throw insults etc. And if the type of people you want supporting your side is people like Vera you then wonder why people won’t listen to your side and take into consideration what you are saying. If you want to be heard try debating your cause with true facts not insults.
I assure you Janice Mr. Beers is not an anti gas activist. His sarcastic reply was in my opinion meant to head off the posibile excuses those who think that the vandilisim is not true.
Tom you have my permission to attach the poto’s I sent you in E-mail of the last attact on my property
Here you go:
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Do all anti frackers hate Irish people or just vera scroggins? Is that considered hate speech, racism, or what? Obvious ignorance.
Vera
I just got off the phone with the Irish embassy… all you have to do is show up and they will give you free Prozac and Diversity in The Community Training. As long as it doesn’t react with the med’s you may be on now
We have experienced a lot of theft and vandalism to our signs and property. In South New Berlin a sign was painted with swasticas. We ordered 4000 friends of natural gas signs of which better than 50% have been Stolen. One old lady from Long Island was caught driving around picking them off peoples land(trespassing)Our larger billboard signs have been torn down.
The opposition have blocked roads. They have distributed misinformation to the elderly or spent a lot of money on newspapers,brochures and flyers, campaigns with misinformation.
We have not stolen personal property or miss led any one by way of propaganda.
We have spent most our time preparing leases or educating land owners and the general public, by way of coalition meetings. We have one goal in mind to inform with facts letting people then make their choice to lease their land or not.
As a friend of mine stated ” how about all those that truly believe in the evil of natural gas take an honorable stance and not use any product having any type of hydrocarbon from cradle to grave”.
That would at least give respect.
Now they plan on civil disobedience, bring it on ! It shows where the nuts are . Maybe this will be helpful for gun control. The identifying of unstable people.
Behavior like this can only hurt the anti movement.
Undermining there efforts towards civility in the worst way.
No one should be treated the way Vera treated this man it’s wrong
Too bad Vera didn’t take from her own lessons on treating your fellow man…
Isn’t the broken mailbox a punishable act?. Cameras don’t cost much neither do wildlife cameras. You need to put them where they aren’t seen or certain people tamper with them. It’s about time these people get the punishments they deserve. It’s about time they are finally held accountable for their actions. They have gotten away with far to much for far to long. Someone should make examples out of them.
Infareds have been prchased and set up as of today
She is a creepy lil woman, sneaking around at night…..
Someone should educate Vera. t’s a coil tubing job. Companies don’t frac at night unless they are operating a 24 hour/day operation. Thats a rare occasion. But coil tubing drillouts/cleanouts can operate during the night so the next zone will be ready to frac when crews arrive at daylight.
you can’t educate a rock
The sneaking is essential to stop pro gassers from ruining our health and environment .Also The DEP promotes volunteers documenting activities they feel are violation s …..To bad you don’t like it but it will continue .
Why did you leave New Jersey to come here, Bill? Weren’t you seeking opportunity?
he was seeking to leave behind his past, but it’s cought up to him and it ain’t pot
Tom I have lived here in NEPA since 1974.I raised my family here and did it without working for the gas industry .It was a good life peaceful and quiet .It is no longer either of these .I have payed taxes here for almost 40 yrs and have worked very hard to achieve what I have now ( again without money or help from the gas industry ) .Yes my children live outside this area and I live with that .Other can do the same .When I came here in 1974 I surely wasn’t seeking opportunity ,I was seeking peace ,quiet ,clean air ,and good down to earth country living .It has surely changed now and this is one reason I am against the drilling .It will change the area and for some it will be good ,and others that want that country simple life it will change too.I grew up in an industrial area and have great respect for this areas environment .I new pollution and industrialization very well .Many people I knew died from it .Maybe now you can see why I dislike this heavy industrial NG operation coming here .I’m over 40 years ahead of all you here that take it all for granted .Laugh if you want but we will lose an important asset as NG industrialization takes over here .
Perhaps if more people were getting royalty checks there would be less people selling children drugs to supplement their income…. Wouldn’t you agree?
So you live with your kids moving away??? Well what about the other people of this area, the farmers that want their children to take over the property, or just everday folks who want their children to have opportunties close by?? Want to be a part of their grandchildrens lives and not from a far??? Why is it that only what you want counts….Many of us want these opportunities for our home, why dont we count?? Why does your sacrifices have to be ours, we want this industry and we live here too.
Not like having someone prowling around my property, day or night? You’re right. I’d call the cops.
Show Vera this. I’d apologize for the language but these guys are tame compared to her. This is what she was filming:
Haha…reminds me of a movie…Hey, we could rewrite the script and make it a movie about fraccing..
Sam the Property owner:
What are you up to? Sneaking off are we?
Vera the Activist:
Sneaking? Sneaking? Fat despoiler is always so polite. Vera shows them secret activity that nobody else could find. And they say sneak! Sneak? Very nice friend oh yes My Precious very nice…
Sam the Property owner:
All right all right! You just startled me is all. What were you doing?
Vera the Activist:
Sneaking!
BTW…fot those who didn’t get it..apologies to LOR.
Wow. And believe it or not, she is representative of about 90 percent of the people protesting at New York’s Capitol today.
I will make sure Vera gets to know all you people are talking behind her back….!!
By all means. Let us know if she’s prepared to have a civil, knowledgeable debate.
LMAO, behind her back on a public forum, a forum that she comments on regularly…not quite behind her back??? these anti’s always seem to mix up the facts !
Bill, just trying to figure out why your so disgruntled? With all the wells drilled around you seems to drive you nuts! Why? I think there is more to this story of yours than your telling us. Could it be you purchased a little parcel of land sandwiched in between big farms, your paradise from the city? In turn its not working out the way you wished or are you ticked because all the land around you is leased? And your not because why? .Not enough land, not enough money,? Come on what’s the catch? I mean seems to me that you are a little tiny island in a big sea of farms that are leased and drilled and you are not hmmm? Have you also raised your clenched fist in the air and took the pledge? By the way its really creepy to lurk around in the middle of the night filming well sites, looking into the landowners house’s .Makes me wonder what else is being filmed!! Some one best tell the home owner to draw their shade’s ..
Is there a “Like” button here?
@ Ken I’m retired and pretty well off .I don’t need Gas money to make my day .I made it here in NEPA without sucking up to the gas industry .It was hard but I made it and raised a family too. I am in a unit .but as I told the lawyer from the gas co. they could keep it all if they go away .Naturally him told me No way and I told him what I thought of him and his co. Not everybody is greedy like most of you here .To bad right !
So everyone is greedy but you, Bill! The arrogant attitude is the problem with the entire anti-gas movement.
@ Tom …my attitude is needed to help control the irrational behavior of people that think money solves all problems and don’t care how they get it .I live with the drilling and I only try to bring out what it has done ……that’s it do you really want it .That’s your choice ,but I want you to know what it will be like near you .It will change .Maybe for you it will be good .Your choice !
Gee Bill…you are so special. How’s the view from your self constructed, imaginary ivory tower. I bet you can see Vera’s house from up there.
@ Robert …..try to keep your personal comments to yourself .I comment from what I have seen and what is going on (right now ) near me .I don’t expect anything in return .I do it because I love the area I live in and want it to remain the same (quiet and clean) mainly because I have seen the pollution (more than any of you who live here in NEPA and I don’t want it here .I grew up with it and if you never lived in an industrial area you wouldn’t understand .Go live in Newark,Jersey city ,Elizabeth ,NJ and then tell me what you think of NG gas drilling …Stay awhile let it sink in and don’t forget to breathe all that nice air too .Maybe when you come back you’ll understand more !! and maybe you won’t !Special I’m not anything just very concerned !
So Billy Boy…how many gas wells in Newark, Jersey City and Elizabeth..?? Don’t lecture me on the pastoral nature of Northeastern PA. I was born and raised here and I’ve been here a heckuva lot longer than you. This area is clean and beautiful because people like me and my ancestors before me live/lived here. Urban New Jersey and New York are sqaulid, disgusting, smelly petri dishes of filth and scum because people like Josh Fox, Vera Scroggins and you live or lived there.
As for urban energy production, Billy Boy, I direct you to Los Angeles County, CA, home of 3,071 active oil and gas wells; 842 of them offshore. Ever been to Beverly Hills, Brentwood, the Sunset Strip…..have you, Billy..??? Looks just like Elizabeth doesn’t it..??? Or Malibu…Lordy, Lordy…so much like Newark’s Broad Street Station neighborhood and lastly, the Sunset Strip reminds me sooooo much of that lovely area around the Jersey Gardens Mall. Oh sorry, I forgot, you’re a Joisey Boy…those directions would baffle you. I should have said Exit 13A off the Turnpike. 1000 pardons, Billy Boy.
This is truly, truly shameful. Vera, whoever you are, please have the good grace to behave like a respectable, responsible adult when you’re in public…and are being obviously videotaped. Not only are you ignorant of facts, and are horribly selfish, you are an inappropriate example of how a decent human being should behave. Ever.
PS So Vera, how does it feel to be talked to like this by a stranger in a public forum?
First and foremost I do not condone the actions of Vera Scroggins,
But this article is nothing but hyperbole and Nicole Jacobs should be admonished for this distortion.
If one goes and actually looks at the alert the club sent out why did Nicole Jacobs cherry pick one person? The following names were mentioned in the original article.
Vera Scroggins, Craig Stevens, Rebecca Roter, Frank Finan, Ray Kemble and the Manning family. They welcomed us into their homes with complete hospitality, and Tammy Manning.
This is just sensationalism at its worst.
In addition the title of this article is even misleading “Why Is the Sierra Club Using a Xenophobe to Fight Natural Gas?” considering that the original article stated that they met the above listed people to hear their stories as the original article states ” meeting those whose health, homes and lives have been forever changed because of fracking:” again Nicole Jacobs distorts the information to look as if the club has sanctioned Vierra Scroggins actions, when the original article only mentions her as one of the people visited.
The whole article is one logical fallacy after another, from the ad-holmium attack against Vera Scroggins; Guilt by innuendo, by stating the Sierra Club is promoting Vera Scroggins, along with the Faulty generalization of the implications from the title. This is also stereotyping by showing the actions of Vera Scroggins the underling tone is that all people who do not agree are the same.
This article is a classic propaganda attack piece which Joseph Goebbels would be proud to have written.
But then again this is typical for EID article sand authors such as Nicole Jacobs as EID are not an ethical public relations operation. As they do not follow the public relations society of America code of ethics
FYI the Public Relations Society of America (PRSA) is the world’s largest and foremost organization of public relations professionals. PRSA provides professional, sets standards of excellence and upholds principles of ethics for its members and, more broadly, the multi-billion dollar global public relations profession.
The Sierra Club sent out a mailing from Yoko Ono crediting Vera with organizing the tour.
The documentation which is provide as evidence in the article states the following,
To see such a beautiful landscape ruined was disturbing enough, but not nearly as bad as the heartbreak of meeting those whose health, homes and lives have been forever changed because of fracking: Vera Scroggins, Craig Stevens, Rebecca Roter, Frank Finan, Ray Kemble and the Manning family. They welcomed us into their homes with complete hospitality, and Tammy Manning even baked us delicious muffins.
There is no message of Vera Scroggins organizing the tour.
The fact that Vera organized this tour and tens, if not hundreds, of others is pretty well known. Just ask all the NEPA residents whose property she has trespassed on.